Can frogs and crabs live together

Also, my crab is very peaceful with the other fish. If you got a frog he probably would eat it because he wants all the stuff on the bottum but then maybe not. i called around different places and they told me different things. If yout tank is big then he should be fine but if its small then I wouldnt risk a frog. Other fish maybe. I am looking, as soon as my nitrite is down, hopefuly today after a 50% waterchange, for a catfish I believe it was at my LFs, that eats algea.

It's never a good idea to just dump an animal into your aquarium. This can shock it and introduce disease into your tank. However, you can mitigate these risks by following careful technique. Despite the fact that crabs and frogs are very different animals, the best procedure for introducing them into an aquarium is identical.

Step 1

Research your species before purchasing them to make sure they will work in your tank. Many pet shops sell “freshwater” crabs that actually come from brackish water -- water with some salt in it, but not as much as seawater. Additionally, frogs and crabs should not be kept in the same aquarium, though the procedure for introducing them is the same.

Step 2

Select your species based on your research and your aquarium. If you have a freshwater tank, make sure you have a freshwater crab. Make sure you get the frog you think you are getting. Both the African dwarf frog and the African clawed frog are sometimes sold as “African frogs” or “aquarium frogs,” though the clawed frog is much larger and more predatory.

Step 3

Perform a water change before introducing new animals to the aquarium. A 25 percent water change should be sufficient. Make sure you dechlorinate the new water and that the temperature is roughly the same as the old water.

Step 4

Float your bag for 10 minutes. This is to make sure the water in the bag is the same temperature as the aquarium water. Ensure the bag is sealed.

Step 5

Dump the water and your frog or crab into a large, clean and unsoaped container. Buckets and large food safe plastic containers work well.

Step 6

Add 1/2 cup aquarium water into the bucket or container from Step 5 every five minutes. Your goal is to get a 4:1 ratio of aquarium water to bag water. This should take about half an hour. Alternately, you can use a length of air line tubing to slowly drip water into the bucket.

Step 7

Net the frog or crab to introduce him into the aquarium. Do not dump the water from his bag or the bucket into the aquarium.

Step 8

Discard the water from the bag. It is probably rich in ammonia and can contain parasites.

Step 9

Top off your fish tank with fresh, dechlorinated water of about the same temperature as the tank water.

Step 10

Avoid feeding your new pet for at least a day. He will not eat from the stress, so the food will just decay and pollute the water.

Cons to having a frog in with hermit crabsWhen the AMERICAN GREEN TREE FROG as it appears to be, gets stressed, its secretions may be toxic to the crabs. The frog is eventually going to down one of your crabs and probably die in the process. Frogs are triggered into food response by movement.Like previously mentioned, your frog lands in the salt water, its not going to make it.Do you really want the crabs eating frog feces and molting in urination?If that frog is wildcaught you just intoduced a whole slew of parasites to your hermits.If the humidity is too high the frog can get a respiratory infection.It is NEVER a good idea to mix species in a very small area. Neither party will benefit, unless one ends up with a full belly.

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Is it Safe to Put Tree Frogs in with the Crabs?

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Post by Froggz37 » Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:58 am

I'm sorry, I've kept green tree frogs before, i know how delicate they are.A two foot terrarium is TINY. I'm sorry but any way you look at it it is so much too small to create micro-enviroments where the occupants can thrive. I have a 150g tank that has ONE species in it, and I would never add another. I Don't know of ONE experienced herp keeper that suggests to keep multiple species together in a space too small to fit their needs.Does the frog have live plants? If you had researched frogs you would have learned they do best and thrive with live plants in their own enclosure.I just personally don't think its fair that you've doomed the frog or hermits to death just for personal enjoyment. I can guarantee that frog will not live over a year from now because of an improper enclosure. Regardless of where you got the frog, have you taken a fecal sample to a vet to be tested for parasites? Are you positive they have nothing that can transfer to the crabs? I have had to de-worm every frog I've ever gotten. Most frogs these days are infected with chytrid fungus as well.The frogs are probably staying to the warm side of the tank because the tank is improper for them. A healthy green tree frog will be all over the tank, not staying to a corner.Just remember, you set up that tank for crabs, not for frogs. A frog shouldn't be in it unless you have it set up for a frog. Frogs and crabs need completely different enclosures. I have both frogs and crabs, along with multiple species of fish and other reptiles. I don't even keep multiple species of frog together. Each of my frogs has its OWN enclosure, not even a species mate of its own kind.And I'm sorry if this offends you, but our worlds frog populations are declining at an alarming rate because many people take them in as pets without ever researching what the frogs truly need, and its always at the frogs expense.Here is some reading for you, from people other than myself From a frog forum Another, at the same forumSome proper research into the frogs needs may help.

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Post by Froggz37 » Sat Jan 24, 2009 7:37 am

Why agree to disagree now just because the effects of stress haven't set in on the frogs and ended their life as of yet? Foolish.I don't believe you fully understand that the frogs will not survive LONG TERM.Crabs and GTF come from different climates, live in different habitats, and are completely different creatures that should not be housed together. Any two animals that are not in the same family should not be mixed. Just because you are not seeing ill effects now doesn't mean they won't happen. If you don't want to neglect the frogs, they need their own enclosure with lower humidity that they need. I also noticed the blue gravel in the tank. One of the frogs eats that and it will die of impaction. Most frog caresheets mentions the risk of impaction. Are you prepared for a trip to the exotic vet?Myself and other forum members have commented with concerns of the situation and you have chosen to ignore them all for self satisfaction.

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Post by Crabby Abby » Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:59 pm

Please note:This thread was moved off the active forum several days ago so the administrators could discuss the topic and content and whether it was best to keep the thread off the board or return it.As Christa's goal for the LHC site is to improve the care and welfare of land hermits, we felt we would not be honoring that commitment by preventing discussion of such a topic. Doing so would negate the seriousness of mixed housing and withhold information that members should have access to - in this case the dangers and reasons why it's discouraged. With the exception of a few beneficial tank cleaners (pill bugs, etc) the staff does not endorse housing land hermits with anything more than other LHC species as the possible health effects are not fully known at this time.If you wish to post here please show respect for one another and word your posts accordingly, even in dissent.

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