What color puppies will a yellow and chocolate lab have

I have seen on that chocolate/yellow parents are not good for chocolate puppies - why? I would love to have chocolate labrador, but want to get it right.

Megan had two yellow parents but obviously choc genes somewhere with her pink nose and green/Amber eyes. Little Krissie has the very pale yellow coat with black eyes, lips, pads and it looks a bit odd we're so used to Megan :roll:
Interested in the answer - how do you breed a "good" choc?

oh i dunno, my jake`s mom was black but his dad was yellow. he has really green eyes but if i looks at his paws then the fur in between the 2 front pads is yellow and if i ruff back the furr on his tail it`s also yellow at the roots but you can only see it if you push it against the direction of growth and it`s only the roots on his tail

are you hoping to breed a chocolate with your current dog who is yellow?

Sundance said:

I have seen on that chocolate/yellow parents are not good for chocolate puppies - why?

The only reason people say you shouldn't breed a Choc (who carries Yellow) to a Yellow (Who carries Choc) is because you'll get some yellow pups with the pinky chocolate skin and eye pigmentation, which they call Dudley's. This pigmentation is seen as a fault in the show ring. The pups don't grow two heads or anything like that :wink: and many people find that colouration really appealling, but it's a no-no in the ring.

If the choc doesn't carry yellow and the yellow doesn't carry choc, then all the pups will be black anyway.

http://www.blueknightlabs.com/color/coatcolor.html

my jake`s mom was black but his dad was yellow. he has really green eyes but if i looks at his paws then the fur in between the 2 front pads is yellow and if i ruff back the furr on his tail it`s also yellow at the roots but you can only see it if you push it against the direction of growth and it`s only the roots on his tail

Jake's Mum and Dad must both have carried the Choc gene. So Jake's appearance is literally Chocolate, the same as if his parents were both Chocolate. His eye colour and undercoat is typical of most Chocolates. You don't see many Chocs with brown or amber eyes or dark undercoats...you do see some but the vast majority are just like your lad and it's nothing to do with either parent being yellow and all to do with the colours carried on those Choccie genes :wink: .

I think others have covered it - but just to make it clear - puppies from chocolate to yellow matings don't produce puppies with health problems or two heads - they do run a risk it both parents carry the other's gene that you will produce Liver yellows - i.e. No Black Pigment.

I have a chocolate carrying yellow and if find the right dog would mate her to a black carrying yellow or a yellow with black pigment NOT carrying chocolate because that way I know all the yellows would have black pigment.

You don't see Liver pigmented dogs very often because most people tend to avoid Yellow to Choc matings or those that do are usually inexperienced and have done no research bring a yellow and chocolate dog together - either ending up with a litter of all blacks as already mentioned, or chocolates and liver pigmented yellows.

The colour of your dogs eyes, undercoat, and any other bits you can mention has absolutely NO bearing in on the colours it carries.

I a chocolate has a yellow parent, it WILL carry yellow - but does not carry black (genetically impossible) if a black has a chocolate and yellow parent - it will be black carrying yellow and chocolate

Far more important to worry about than the colour of the parents is whether they have been hip and elbow scored, one parent PRA tested and both with current clear eye certificiates.

Chocolate/Yellow Mix

Thank you for your replies very helpful. I'm not a breeder, I am just looking/doing a bit of research on chocolate labs and was worried about "avoid" chocolate/yellow mix as I know of puppies due in a few weeks with this mix (not planned). I'm not looking to show, just for a lab to love having lost our old black rescue labrador earlier this year. Thanks again.

Re: Chocolate/Yellow Mix

Sundance said:

Thank you for your replies very helpful. I'm not a breeder, I am just looking/doing a bit of research on chocolate labs and was worried about "avoid" chocolate/yellow mix as I know of puppies due in a few weeks with this mix (not planned). I'm not looking to show, just for a lab to love having lost our old black rescue labrador earlier this year. Thanks again.

sorry to hear about your loss.

Just because you 'dont want to show etc' - please don't overlook the health aspects of getting a puppy - if anything, it is even more important that pets start off with the best grounding possible - i.e. parents have been AT LEAST hipscored and have current clear eye certificates, and ideally one PRA tested clear and one or both parents elbow scored 0 or 1

All of these are so much more important than the colour of the parents - and the chances are (not always) but an unplanned litter will mean untested parents - take a look at the Labrador Health website - and see some of the heartbreak people have gone through thinking along similar lines of "just wanting a pet"

www.lab-health.co.uk